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November 10, 2004

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ML

Just wanted to let you know I've been enjoying reading these articles. Certainly keeps me thinking!!

Rob

Thanks. That is my goal. I don't have the answers, only some ideas. I know what's wrong, and sort of the direction to go to make it right, but I don't have the whole story. Thinking is good.

cspew

The second lie is an important one. Why is it that this lie happens? Why would church-goers WANT to be beaten over the head into conformity? Does the average church-goer really believe that by not drinking they are simply propogating this "lie"? Of course not. They are lead into believing it. But WHY is it so easy to follow this lie and so hard to stand up against it? I think there are several reasons:
1.) History. There is a lot of momentum within all churches (mainline old denominations, catholic, or relatively new ones) that behavior == righteousness.
2.) Culture. Especially in the USA, we live in a puritan culture that fines you for being naked on TV or in public, outlaws cigarette advertising, and arrests you for being drunk (unless you're in college, in which case it's ok).
3.) It's natural: It's difficult to grasp the concept that we are forgiven and loved unconditionally because human beings aren't very good at loving and forgiving unconditionally. Besides, even making *good* judgements is difficult. It's much easier to feel superior or righteous or even feel like you're making an effort to be more godly if you're changing your actions rather than changing your heart. But what feels natural to us is exactly what Jesus preached against and lived his life against!

It's a pity that the church doesn't take a stand against these lies and doesn't propogate more of the truth.

Rex

Good post Rob. I enjoy reading your thoughts on things and this post brings up previous conversations I have held with others my age and quite older than myself. It is far and few in between that will hold such direct conversation, so when I find it I get pretty excited. Your third point was particularly hard hitting as I have progressed in my faith I have tended to lean more toward (gasp :) your writings). And I know what will happen as it has already happened with certain folk in church leadership. The walls, the control, the smashing. In it all I am glad that I am surrounded by those that think and keep the focus on God, not rules or conformity. I have been continuing to go to church services while not 'fitting in' and it causes a good bit of friction with certain folk, but alas I have decided to care what God thinks and to have conversation with those who show and desire to have open conversation in love.

I don't think I will change the church or its culture, but I do think that by loving God and loving others things will change for the better. Even if it is one life at a time, I just wish I did a better job at it sometimes.

cspew

Rex,
We too continue to go to church and not feel like we fit in; however, that's where I meet people who actually do ask questions, and (more importantly) whos hearts are in the right place. The nice thing about churches is that they ARE full of a lot of caring people who love God and want to do what's "right". When you find some that are willing to have these types of discussions, you're golden!

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